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hilscher

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2011-01-03 1-04-45-

is this true? “it's better to get something worthwhile done using deception than to fail to get something worthwhile done using truth.”
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2011-01-03 14-30-58

objectively, yes.
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    2011-01-03 14-36-25

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    hitz

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    2011-01-03 21-32-50

    I don't think so..... If you have to use deception, is it really worth doing?
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    2011-01-04 12-47-00

    if it's truly worthwhile, use any means necessary...as long as nobody gets hurt
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    2011-01-04 13-17-39

    like insider trading?
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    You remember 'The Boy Who Cried Wolf'? At a certain point when he's telling the truth, everyone was so used to him lying they didn't believe him.
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  • Royce

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    2011-01-05 12-04-17

    Depends on your definition of worthwhile
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    2011-01-14 13-46-41

    thats a gray matter
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    Wieslaw

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    2011-01-22 0-48-25-

    so much grey area there depends on the deception. deceiving a girl to go out with you by telling her you know how to dance, when you don't, and then getting lessons is ok. deceiving your employer that you know what you're doing and then stealing other peoples work to get ahead, not ok.
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  • crosier

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    2011-02-22 4-16-41-

    If you're walmart, Nike, exxon mobile, Most all politicians and lobbyists then that applies
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    2011-03-03 8-46-58-

    but they don't start out as separate people - The people in those companies, and those politicians, they were born in your neighborhoods. They're you, your neighbors.
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    Depends on ones own morality, which path they Choose
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    2011-12-19 4-42-52-

    You exclude yourself though There are some basic responses that we all have. The same things thought by men and women a thousand years ago are the same things thought today (try saying that times without saying thame things thought today!). Oh, that evil Bush, or Oh that evil Obama. Don't put them or anyone up on a pedestal or put you yourself or others down below in the dirt. it Vitruvius man (that man famous from Da Vinci), but there are basic measurements in man that are duplicated in all others, basic thoughts duplicated in others too. Exceptions yes, but by definition they are exceptions, not the usual. Don't single out some company that can't even speak in response or some politician. Charles Wrangle is about to get reprimanded by Congress. He didn't start out corrupt. He was a poor boy, fought in the military. You get a little luck like he did and in forty years you'd be just like him, no better, and no worse: ecce Homo, behold man in all his glory and faults!
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    It certainly does The idea of you excluding yourself from the commonality of humanity is as if you wish to throw yourself up an outcrop of rocks. You are only fortunate that I am not next to you in person since YES I do and have said these things to strangers. Separating yourself from humanity, alienating yourself by putting yourself down, stabs at the very heart of my own humanity. It is as if you are trying to dash yourself against those rock and you are arguing with me when I try to stop you from doing so. You, though a stranger, affect me, and I would do the same for any stranger. How could I live with myself otherwise?
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    Empathy If you want to repeat, then repeat after me, I [your name] am somebody. Sometimes I am a clever somebody and sometimes I am a not-so-clever somebody. But I have life, like the life in the grass, and the life in the sun and trees. I shine I grow and sometimes I'm a klutz.
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