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2011-01-03 5-11-25-

And yet another candidate for the Mr. Obvious Statement of the Year Award (there really should be one!): the pope. I quote: "Pope admits sex abuse by priests caused 'indescribable pain'" from Reuter's this morning. Here's the link: No shit, Sherlock! Of course it did! I'm just appalled that the Catholic Church still hasn't bloody realized that the only way they're gonna get this to stop (mostly) is to let the priests get married. The Orthodox Church lets priests marry. Protestants let their pastors get married.
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2011-01-04 17-50-12

Hmmm... clairity for me perhaps, but is it your opinion that the only way (mostly) to get priest to stop molesting ren is to allow them to marry? typiy i thought the catholic churches would only recognize a het (male / female) marriage, and i thought most of the mollestations were done to male ren by male priests. And the male priests doing this are pedophiles, and a marriage to a adult female is not going to change that. im a little harsh onabuse, i say the catholic church should remove them from church protection and prossecute them leagaly forabuse/mollestation/rape and send the found guilty to jail!
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2011-02-05 8-47-06-

I agree, Sculp, but if there was a discussion of sexuality in seminary, perhaps some of the pedophiles would be stopped from becoming priests. Agree that the real issue is the protection of the pedophile priests and lack of accountability in the church, not thefact that priests are supposed to be celibate. On the other hand, does anyone know the rate of sexual abuse by clergy who are allowed to marry? That would be an interesting comparison.
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    2011-03-16 4-48-27-

    Nicely put Kalyana and interesting question, i still think its not the marraige or lack there of responsible for sexual abuse. I would think it is inately felt that to sexually abuse ais wrong and not in keeping with any doctrin of any church. But then i think back to the time when marring a x yr old was standard, and lifespans were shorter, they just kept that entitlement as life spans grew.
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    2011-06-25 7-40-13-

    Making marriage available to RC clergy would make the vocation more acceptable to mentally sound men (hopefully women too) and not attract men who are attracted to ren. Some would still be there, but at a smaller ratio--because the vocation attracts men who want to be in close contact with young people in unsupervised situations. The vocation attracts men who are not comfortable in adult romantic relationships.
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    2011-12-04 23-32-31

    thank you! that was what I was trying to say. The Catholic Church used to allow marriage until the late middle ages, or at least turn a blind eye to it, and as far as I know there wasn't much mention of pedophelia and the priesthood then. I could be wrong, but it seemed like marriage, or at least the possibility of a relationship helped. Sorry for just gettin back, had to get some zzz's.
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    2012-07-05 12-34-47

    along these lines Here's an interesting post. Mind you, his definition of "bisexual" is different from what we see around these parts, I believe. Robert S. McElvaine Pope Should Start "Spiritual Renewal" with Bisexual God On Sunday, Pope Benedict XVI asked the crowd gathered in St. Peter's Square to pray that his first visit to the United States as pontiff this week would "be a time of spiritual renewal for all Americans." Surely spiritual renewal would be beneficial to all of us -- not least the pope and his Church.
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    well put!
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    2014-02-11 12-28-14

    One of the hardest parts to swallow about all of it, is the number of times the church covered it up and let it continue to happen knowing there was a serious problem. It comes down to $$$$, and it enrages me when I here them cry "poor mouth" .... BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    2015-07-01 9-22-07-

    agree BR throughout the catholic churches, past some in the church have covered up many attrocities in my op. enrage is right, when i typed a little harsh...i was being polite. most every thing boils down to the money...sad
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    I believe people who track these things have found that most male-on-male pedophilia is done by men who ID as hetero, and frequently by men who are married. The widespread idea that marriage serves as some kind of anti-predatory safety valve makes me really queasy and sad. It says: men have to have a woman around to have sex with or they'll sexually assault some It says: women's primary function in a marriage is to sexually service their husband. Do we still think that way, as a society?? I guess we do.
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